Carmen Geisha Natural
NaturalDark
Cherrybook Index
73Noted
Evidence-of-quality score, not a cup score. Sparse signal: 2 of 7 signals on file. Methodology
Price position
$13.32/oz$47.00 for 100g
this lot $13.32$7.50$11.97
Typical band for this profile $7.50 to $11.97 (Panama natural single-origin lots (gesha, small bags); across markets in stock). Where it sits
Catalog summary
A natural lot from Boquete, Panama, indexed 73 on sparse evidence and priced above the typical band for its listed profile.
Based on the listing and catalog evidence
Price and availability set by the roaster.
Cherrybook last checked this listing today.
Roaster’s notes
lilac · candied pear · white wine · passionfruit · tamarind
- Fruit
- Citrus
- Floral
Open the flavor wheel
Mapped from the roaster’s tasting notes to the SCA flavor wheel; Cherrybook’s interpretation of the stated notes, not the roaster’s own categorization.

- Origin
- Boquete, PA
- Producer
- Jean Paul Langenstein
- Farm / Co-op
- Carmen Estate
- Process
- Natural
- Altitude
- 1900 m
- Varietals
- Geisha
- Harvest
- 2024
- Weight
- 100g
- Bag price
- $47.00
- Price / oz
- $13.32/oz
- Brew
- filter
from the roaster’s storeread by Cherrybook from the listing“estimated” below = inferred, not stated
Price contextmodeled
A modeled range and current prices for comparable listings.
$13.32/oz
typically $7.50 to $11.97
Where it sits
15 Panama natural single-origin lots (gesha, small bags); across markets in stock
typical band this lot
Broad comparison: 47th percentile of 15 Panama natural single-origin lots (gesha, small bags); across markets in stock right now.
This group broadens origin, roast or selling market to find enough lots. It does not qualify this coffee for a value recommendation.
What moves this price
cheaper×1.00pricier
- Gesha variety×2.56
- Panama origin×1.39
- Roaster brand and sourcing×1.05
- Dark roast×0.97
At 100 g, this bag runs about 14% more per ounce than a typical 288 g bag; that is pack size, not the coffee.
How this estimate works
A statistical model, refit weekly across the in-stock catalog, estimates what a coffee with these listed attributes typically sells for per ounce. Each multiplier compares one trait against the average lot in this market; the roaster line covers brand and sourcing together, which this model cannot separate. Bag size is shown separately, priced at the rate observed across sizes of the same coffee, because it says nothing about the coffee itself. The distribution counts every in-stock listing in the comparison group, with at least 15 listings from three roasters and no roaster supplying more than 60% of it. Decaf, blends, variety segments, processing families and bag formats stay separate. Origin, roast and selling currency can broaden as the group label indicates. Prices are converted to USD per ounce; shipping and differences in tax treatment are not adjusted. The model reads listed attributes only: the quality of the specific lot in the bag is not observable, so a price above the typical band is not evidence of overpricing.
Cherrybook Index (CBI)
Evidence-of-quality score, not a cup score. Methodology
73
Noted
Sparse signal
Confidence2 of 7 signals on file
Score is heavily shrunk toward 50; treat as a placeholder until more sources arrive.
How confidence affects the score
Coverage measures signal availability, not cup quality. This coffee has 23% of the signal universe on file. Missing sources are dropped, remaining weights are renormalized, and the result is shrunk toward a neutral 50 baseline by 43% so one thin signal cannot carry the score on its own.
The math on file: renormalized base 89.5 shrunk to 72.7 = 73.
Missing: SCA grade, Coffee Review, YouTube reviews, On-shop ratings, Cherrybook ratings
- 95/ 22% weightRoaster transparencyProducer / farm / lot disclosure depth
- 88/ 78% weightReddit sentimentSentiment across specialty-coffee discussion
Comps & alternatives
Tasting flight
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Reference · About the varietal & origin
About Phil & Sebastian Coffee Roasters
Community reputation · Reddit
Cult favorite· sentiment 88/100
Two independent Reddit comments give Phil & Sebastian Coffee Roasters strongly favorable but limited evidence. One contributor named its Jose Cuellar among their favorite coffees of the year. Another included Phil & Sebastian among Canadian roasters with great coffee.
Jose Cuellar coffeefavorite-of-year mentionCanadian roaster recommendation
Threads cited (2)
- r/pourover · 172↑ · 2024 was a great year for coffee ☕️
.... Some of my favourite coffees of the year in no particular order (don’t have cards for all): -Sweven - Abu Gesha advanced washed -Manhattan - Luna Bermudez -Phil and Sebastian - Jose Cuellar -Hydrangea - Pepe Jijon Gesha -Coffea Circulor - Ouragan AA -Mame - Abu lot 1921 -Rogue Wave - Janson lot 194 -Sey - Cruz Lom
- r/espresso · 21↑ · Any Canadians on here have recommendations for roasters that ship here?
There are lots of great Canadian roasters and I think most of them ship their coffee. Off the top of my head: - Rogue Wave - Hatch - Angry Roaster - The Library - Phil and Sebastian and many more. All have great coffee.
On YouTube
Meet the roaster on camera
About the roasterBrand film
Phil & Sebastian Coffee | The Ampersand Strikes Again
Coffee Showcase · 30K views on YouTube
Watch on YouTubeThis video covers Phil & Sebastian Coffee Roasters; it is general roaster coverage.
Cherrybook summary of the video
A reflection on the branding of Phil & Sebastian Coffee Roasters, focusing on their distinct ampersand logo and how the company built an identity where the symbol stands in for the name.
Inside this video
From Coffee Showcase:
“Not a lot of companies are able to shift their identity to a logo that does not include their name.”
“The ampersand strikes again.”
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